what’s all the flap about??

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are we glad it’s friday?? YES!

even though i always work at least a little on the weekend, i’m glad it’s friday. two days of peace and quiet ahead. who wouldn’t like that?

i am so close to being finished with the morning glories stole. i’m hoping to knock the rest out tonight.

i’ll be a little sad when it’s done—this one was completely entertaining to knit. and the yarn . . . but i think tonight has to be our last one as a couple. sigh.

and even if i don’t finish tonight, then definitely tomorrow. which means i’ll be blocking on sunday. with my new blocking wires. that should be fun—i can’t quite picture poking the wires through wet wool, but hopefully it’s easier and faster than i am imagining.

i’ve always had a hesitancy about handling very wet wool, especially heavier items—it’s so fragile and unwieldy. that’s one of the reasons i’m the grateful owner of a washer that does real handwashing for me. of course, the wool is still wet afterwards, but a lot more water gets squeezed out than if i actually wash the items with my hands, and it makes manipulating them a lot easier.

i put another inch or more onto the second stepsock in the car on the way to the chiroprator this evening.

only about 3 or 4 inches to go and i’m done, but i’m a little worried about how much yarn i have left here. it looks like a lot in the picture, but trust me, that ball is a mere husk of its former self. now, i knit a pair of these at christmas and had plenty of yarn left over. but these have four more stitches around, and they seem to be using a LOT more yarn. hmm.

such a bummer, because i thought that this yarn would be a good one for making men’s socks, but not if i have to buy two of them (my guys have WIDE feet). i love the guys, but they are not getting $39-dollar socks.

and as for the pink ragg socks, it’s progress as usual. this pair has definitely benefitted from being on my desk for the last couple of weeks. i’ve been able to add to it here and there on a very regular basis (not always the case; some desk socks grow so slowly that certain readers actually become concerned about them . . .). it can be a little like watching corn grow.

so, let’s talk shop for a sec. i knew you all would have some great ideas about handling the heel flap edges. and not one of you got on my back about looking the information up in one of my (many) sock books. kudos for courtesy!
trust me, if my dad was around, that would’ve been the first thing out of his mouth—”go look it up, THEN i’ll tell you the answer”.

and, as promised, i am offering a list of all the clever suggestions that came in. some of them are essentially the same, but i wanted to represent everyone who took the time to write it down for us:

It’s been a long while since I made a heel flap, but I suspect I’m not the best at picking up the gusset stitches. If the stitches are resistant, I just jab through the top layer of yarn, regardless of where, then wrap my needle and call it a picked-up stitch. I think my reasoning is that if I go through the plies of one strand, that just adds strength to the gusset. I think I made that up, but I really believe it.

Lately, I’ve been slipping (as if to knit, even on the purl row) the first stitch of every row of a heel flap. That seems to help keep the edges quite similar. Not necessarily foolproof, but worth a try, I think.

My habit is to do either one of two things
1) knit backwards for the heel flap (eliminating the purl row. I do the slips in this direction as well.
2) do the first and last stitch always in knit. This leaves a small tight garter ridge along the edge, making it easy as well to see where to pick up.

i stopped slipping the edge stitches for heel flaps as i can never pick them up again without having gappy gussets! in fact, i stopped knitting heel flaps entirely &; now knit most of my socks toe-up, with a modified short-row heel that looks exactly like a heel-flap heel but without the picking-up-stitches nonsense. if i have to knit a top-down heel flap, i do a garter stitch edging (knitting the first &; last few stitches on every row without slipping any stitches) &; then pick up the “bumps” between the rows when picking up stitches for the gusset.

So, I don’t twist the stitches in order to make one side less “wonky”, but mine don’t end up that way— here’s what I do:
Whilst you are doing the slip stitch heel flap, you are (I am assuming) doing:
*sl1, k1* *(with your SL1 being “slip 1 purlwise”)
*sl1, purl to end. (with your SL1 being “slip 1 purlwise”)
I make the snd row (purl row):
Slip 1 KNITWISE and then purl row.
It keeps my end stitches all twisty and nice. 🙂 Then I pick up for my gussets as normally called for. I love me a flap heel!

I usually slip the first stitch of ever row knitwise on both rows (k and p) – I pick up the gusset stitches a la grumperina (pick them up and knit through the back loop) – it’s worked pretty well so far!

I love the slip-stitch heel because it’s extra thick and cushy. I always slip the first stitch on both the knit and purl sides. Depending on gauge this can make the gusset a bit gappy, so then I knit into the backs of the picked up stitches to twist them to close the gaps.

Use an odd number of stitches and on the knit side, slip 1, k1 across, last stitch slip 1. Purl the wrong side rows. That helps a LOT.

Not sure where I learned it (possibly EZ?) but I always do a garter-stitch edge (usually 3 st. wide, sometimes less to suit a pattern) on each side of the heel flap. So the first and last 3 st. on every row are knit.

I always put three garter-stitch stitches on each selvedge edge of the heel flap with the slip stitches in between these (3 + 34 + 3 = 40 sts total).
Row 1: K3, *k1, sl1 purwise. Repeat from * to 3 sts before end, k to end. Row 2: K3, p to 3 sts before end, k3. Repeat.
I’ve also started picking up the heel flap stitches with very small needles (00’s) and working them in purl on only the first row after picking them up to join the heel and make the gusset. The purl bumps seem to disappear more nautrally into the garter stitch edges of the heel flap than a stockinette stitch and also to tighten up any droop that may remain.

I do the slip stitch heel as well and what I do is to knit into the back of the loop. I pick up one loop with my left needle and with the right needle and working yarn knit into the back of the loop. It gives a nice twisted edge and seems easier to do. At least that is my opinion any way.

19 thoughts on “what’s all the flap about??

  1. The morning glories stole is beautiful. I just love the colors in your Step sock. I am kind of in the same boat with some Trekking yarn. I know that 1 ball will make a pair, but after the first sock I am a bit worried. I am knitting on and will have to see how far I can get on it. I am hoping that I am wrong and there will be enough to finish. Keeping my fingers crossed for you too.

  2. Morning Glories is beautiful indeed! I’m just finishing up some WIPs before winding the yarn for the Starlight Evening Wrap. Hopefully the variegated coloring won’t distract from the lovely pattern you’ve written. I’d rather knit socks for women for the very reason you’ve mentioned. Some mens’ feet are very large indeed, and you know what they say about men with big feet… they need big socks.

  3. Thanks for the heel flap notes, gotta try some of those! If you got a second ball to finish big feet socks, you’d probably have enough left for socks for you out of the leftovers. I’ve started weighing the first sock and the remaining ball after the first man sock though just to see whether I’ll make it or not.

    Morning Glories really is coming along quickly. Can’t wait to see it blocked.

  4. Regarding the sock yarn, I am in a similar predicament. I am knitting a pair out of Mountain Colors and am worried there won’t be enough to finish the 2nd sock. So what about this idea … encourage a new style. The toe of the second sock could be out of different yarn and call it a design element. Maybe even get creative with it. Do I sound like I am trying too hard?? maybe so. Or how about this…have mini-skeins of sock yarn for 2nd sock emergencies. Too silly? Well, it does sound far fetched, but $40 for a pair of socks goes against my budget-conscious ways no matter how much I enjoy knitting them.

  5. When I use blocking wires, I poke the wires through the edges, pin out the item, spray with plain water until wet, and let dry. Poking the wires through the edges of a wet item shouldn’t be too difficult, if you lay it out flat before you begin.

    Weighing in late on the slipstitch heel question: the differing stitch sizes on the heel flap edges don’t bother me, because I pick up both loops of the slipped stitches, and this moves the edge stitches to the inside of the sock.

  6. The shawl is so beautiful — I can’t wait to see it blocked! And thank you for sharing everyone’s heel flap tips. They prove again that knitting rules are just guidelines!

  7. Thank you SO much for summarizing all this! I’ve been doing the slip the stitches, then twist the stitch when picking up and knitting ala Grump, but it still gets gappy. Now I have lots of new experiment ideas! I always wondered what the utility of the garter edges was other than decorative, and now I know. I’ll give it a try on a sock. I AM orbiting to toe up soon. Soon. Really.

  8. Yarn shortage anxiety is way too common lately, and since I have been gravitating toward the lovely (more expensive) sock yarns, it seems especially annoying. What’s with these 350-360 yard skeins of sock yarn? One is not enough; two, too much!

  9. Your stole is beautiful!

    You’ll be interested (?) to know that I spent the evening at home with some knitting needles and yarn reaquainting myself with the needles instead of a hook. It took a verrrrrry long time, but I did figure out casting on and have two rows done in garter stitch. Hooray!

  10. Pretty stole! I’m working on a pair of MAN socks right now too (thanks, in part, to having you as motivation), in nearly the same colors and they are WIDE as all get out. Boys really do have some wide feet! I keep looking at them while I’m knitting, thinking they are way too big and then I look at his feet and fear that they won’t fit. Funny, huh?

  11. I just finished a pair of socks with the exact same yarn you are using – I ran out of yarn (men’s size 11 feet!) halfway down the foot of the second sock and had to scour our town for another ball. My LYS ordered it for me but they were out of my dye lot. I’ll use what’s left for a MUCH SMALLER pair!

  12. I’ve been toying with the idea of knitting that stole for a throw of sorts for my living room. I don’t wear stoles, but I’m in love with this pattern!!!! I can’t help but sing your praises, I brag about your patterns–they are second to none to me.

  13. the stole is looking amazing -the colors in that yarn!!! I love my washer also – it has an “extra delicate” cycle – I can wash non-superwash socks in there with no problems!

  14. Please do tell – what kind of washer do you have? My old thing is excellent for felting wool, shrinking cotton and otherwise distressing fabric.

    The morning glories stole is Gorgeous, btw!

    /Heather

  15. I forgot to answer about heel flaps. I do slip the stitch on both sides (purl and knit rows), so I don’t have the problems that you mention. Those are great suggestions. hope one of them is the right solution for you.

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